BEING AN EXERCISE IN THE UTILIZATION OF SEQUENTIAL SYMBOLOGY TO VISUALLY CHARACTERIZE AND SYNOPSIZE "CONSERVATIVE" NEO-CATHOLICISM
Tis good to see you back in action again TH2. I pray that your lucid commentaries will enlighten, and better yet, jolt of their pews, those honest Catholics (lot of dishonest ones who are quite content with their Nervous OhNo! neo-conservative complancency) to cast off the heresy that is the Conciliar Church and embrace Traditional Roman Catholicism (which indeed is THE only Catholicism in reality.) It is not an easy thing to do but who said picking up and carrying one's cross would would a walk in the park in clement weather? I cannot advocate the SSPX, as they have fallen away from their once Catholic mission, apparently hellbent on joining up with the conciliarists, as the Indult/Ecclesia Dei communities did. (For health reasons I have not been able to attend and kind of proper liturgy for some months. I noticed in the latest bulletin from the Edmonton FSSP community advertisements for the CCCB collection, and for upcoming free seminars from that great hotbed of *orthoduck-see* Newman Theological(ly Impaired) College. That is definitely a VERY bad sign. But not surprising. I wont rant about Fractured Franky at this stage. Merely a libera nos ab homino malo.
Am I safe in assuming that the gentleman in blue winking is Martin Luther?
Given the circumstance commencing March, I opine within a reasonable degree of certainty that principles of the Conciliar Church will remain in force for a while longer.
Yes, sir - you are correct. Marty Luder himself making an appearance.
What a brilliant depiction of the purgatory to which we have been assigned. Thank you for including S.H., a thorn in the side of those who lament rather than "celebrate" the protestantization of the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. Another fitting symbol for the collage would be the biological sign for "male" crossed out (the way a no-smoking sign shows a cigarette with a red bar through it). Masculinity seems to be suppressed by the modernist church. Hence the demonic curse of "inclusive language." Imagine the temerity of tampering with the Sacred Scripture (not to mention defying the laws of grammar) to score political points.
this is hilarious! very clever.
How about a picture of Marty the Lufer getting nailed to the doors of Notre Dame or Rheims? A perfect way to celebrate All Hallows Eve (and in light of what the Goofy Lufer did on that date).:-)By hope and the biological situation we can at least seriously cull the more deadwood and aggravating members of modern conciliarism, by praying much harder. Tis the month of the Rosary. Or sit them in front of a huge stereo with surround and play Dies Irae over and over. Make sure you turn the knob to 11. :-)
Thank you, Dr. Kerr.Yes, I could have added Noonan as well. A fashionista alright. Good idea. There are a few others, too.
You know, marylise, I once had the hope that a fair number of Neo-Cats would realize the error of their ways, so to speak. Especially with the direction of Benedict's pontificate. I even had links to their sites from my blog, hoping for their eventual "realization" and course correction. But those links are mostly gone now. I've noticed no course correction. Same old.
See this link for a depiction of Luther that you many fancy. the "Devil's Bagpipe".
Re: The Devil's Bagpipe....That is indeed, and pardon the pun, one mighty wicked caricature and damningly very true!An excellent find that needs to be placed into the art collection.
At the risk of excessive boldness, it seems enough time has passed to allow us to conclude that the cardinals deliberately elected someone who would put a halt to Benedict's reforms. So the Neo-Cats are doomed to slumber on in their fat squishy beds. We suffer more than they do, but they are in greater danger. By the way, something interesting about Benedict is that he was not really all that orthodox as a cardinal. For example, some of his statements about original sin and the Blessed Virgin Mary were way out of line. However, as pope, he responded in spades to the grace of office. The last year of his pontificate felt like one miracle after another.
I lost all respect for Peggy Noonan after her swooning over Obama in the 2008 election.I also noticed that since then she hasn't been invited back to appear on EWTN's The World Over either. Before then she would regularly appear in segments about politics.
Dear Heresy Hunter: A splendid Catholic man who frequents your blog recently sent a link to an article by Fr. Chad Ripperger FSSP published in March 2001 Christian Order. It is highly relevant to recent discussions on your blog, explaining in a compelling manner, for example, the difference between "traditionalists" and "neo-conservatives." Like Bishop Sheen, the author has a strong sense of the history of bad ideas as they have affected the Church. The article is not long and should be right up your alley.http://www.christianorder.com/features/features_2001/features_mar01.html
Thank you for the link, marylise. Yes, I have read Fr. Ripperger's excellent article a while ago, in Latin Mass Magazine, linked up here as well. Highly recommended to readers.
Never took her writing seriously. Such types always jump ship when it comes down to the crunch.
Yes, Benedict (Ratzinger) was on the liberal side of things in around the Council and after (no question), growing more orthodox as time progressed, splitting with Küng, etc.. There were residuals, however. Example: during his pontificate I was disheartened when he approvingly referenced Pierre Teilhard de Chardin in one of his talks. Nonetheless, with Benedict the overall trend was back to Tradition, restoration, however sluggish the pace. Parity will come, certainly not now with Francis, as the Revolution has restarted and heads to its consummation. Benedict was a respite.
Have to wonder how Archbishop Sheen would be treated today if he were around. Suspect he wouldn't be as welcome around the Neo-conservatives as he is posthumonously.
I know 1 of the current seminarians at the FSSP Seminary. I noticed that Fr. Ripperger is no longer teaching. Has he retired or died?
Fr. Ripperger is still around and working, thankfully. He's now with the Faithful Answers group. There is also his website Sensus Traditionis.
That is a very good question. My guess is that, given his prominence and that he was an intellectual giant, he would have worked to stem the Neo-Cat tide to some degree. +Sheen was someone who confronted reality head-on, as it were - no nonsense, no smiley face inauthenticity. Since he seems to be on the way to sainthood, let's hope he's interceding in whatever manner.
Grazie, will check them out.
It is amazingly helpful to the human mind to have labels and definitions. This is one of the many services provided by your blog. In the past, confrontation with a neo-Catholic would produce dreadful confusion. One saw that the person was practicing the faith, and yet in the background one sensed an alien point of view, something dark and suffocating. It is now possible to understand where this sense of foreboding comes from. The neo-Catholic is stuck in the present whereas the Church spans all ages. No doubt this is why neo-Catholics tend towards idolatry of recent popes. (EWTN show hosts call Pope John Paul II "the Great" even though he has no such title.) They think such idolatry is a sign of faithfulness whereas in reality it demonstrates a failure to grasp the immensity of the Church.
I'm pretty sure John Paul II "the Great" was first coined, or at least popularized, by Fr. Richard John Neuhaus, one of the three leaders of the Neo-Catholic Movement, along with cohorts George Weigel and Michael Novak. I remember seeing/hearing Fr. Neuhaus use the phrase when he and Raymond Arroyo were doing EWTN commentary for the pope's funeral.
The $ sign in the pictorial collage kind of says it all, in the end. This, I believe, is what the neo-cats have predominantly set their sights on - and I think I mentioned this a few months ago here at TH2. The old saying comes to mind, "Whatever butters your bread." Living the "good life" is what it is allllll about, ultimately, for the neo-cat. And they don't mind so much changing from whole wheat to white bread, catholic to protestant style, as long as the butter goes on as thick and as much to their liking as they please.In this, they have very much in common with the modernist group of heretics, and even perhaps maybe some who fall in the trad camp, and though it is not usually kosher to use one Bible verse, when used out of context, I think perhaps the fit is very well made for neo-cats, in particular, as they are the main topic of this discussion. From 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verse 19:"If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable."If the "good life" does not come with the Catholic package, if there is to be suffering and pain (in other words a real, unimagined, non-fiction Cross) our neo-cat cousins will hit the road. And hit it they will, when the time comes, as it is coming, barreling down full force on the Holy Catholic Church. The neo-cat dance, a la Neville Chamberlain doin' the strip-appeasement for the demons pre-WWII, will be seen throughout the neo-Catholic world, and we do see evidence enough of that at present.The times are strange indeed, and how far along we are in the last times, only God knows. Nonetheless, we must remain faithful, and when called to do so, cling to the cross and offer it up for the souls of those whom we know and love and desire deeply to be with forever in Heaven. Especially those loved ones who have been seduced by the neo-cat dancers, who for the moment are happily strutting about on the top of the fence, singing their neo-cat songs and praising their fine god who gives them fine wine and fine clothes and fine busy, little lives full of cute and oh-so-precious little peccadillos.Sounds very good, looks very good — the "good life"— and indeed, where we often can be tricked into putting our only hope, not in our resurrection in Christ, but in our comfort and sensual pleasures here in this life. We "sacramentalize" these pleasures, with such clever sophistry and tinges of spirituality, that it can be a very difficult seduction to deny. And the betrayals continue to pile up, one upon another. Left, right, and middle. The Body of Christ on the Cross is always the thing, isn't it? It separates the sheep from the goats. Poor goats. Let there not be one goat among my loved ones, may we all desire and receive the conversion and salvation of our souls and deny the pomps and seductions of the Adversary. May we, in our hearts and souls, be granted the wisdom and faith to say, "Begone Satan," and, "get thee behind me Satan," in these most strange and dangerous times.Viva il Papa!
Always good when plc53 drops in to offer commentary.For clarification, I'm not so much against Catholics earning funds per se via books etc. But the situation now, particularly with the group referred to in this post, is that it has become a whole industry unto itself, a supercorporation, and it smacks of a money-changers-in-the-temple type scenario. The occasional book or column or "personal conversion story" is fine, but now the movement has transmogrified into a hydra - and if you cut off one head, another one pops up. Candy-coated, self-absorption, silence on apostasy, happy times, misunderstanding of rhetoric in the classic sense as being "uncharitable", and so forth.Another injustice associated with this Neo-Cat media dominance is, I speculate, that there are real writers and Catholic intellectuals proper out there - certainly with much more depth and qualification, devoting their lives to thinking and creating - who have been ignored or not given their due recognition, as they get lost in this onslaught of "The Shallow". I would further speculate that these writers have a measure of contempt for these Preponderant Surfacers, and I do sympathize with the former if that is the case.Indeed, I do remember that comment you mentioned some months ago, which I classify as one of the most insightful I've received since starting this blog. Another blogger was affected by it so much that she quoted it and discussed. See here. Heads up: that blogger is rather antagonistic to Traditional Catholicism, SSPX etc. and there's seems to be a fair measure of cognitive dissonance (to cite a popular phrase also used by one of my other commenters) going on over there.
TH2: Speaking of the SSPX, I was wondering what you think our appropriate position ought to be. I used to think they were schismatic idiots but I have come to sympathize with them on most points and understand that they are not technically in schism. However, I can't understand why they insist on disobeying the Pope. Whatever one thinks of the Pope, he is the Vicar of Christ, and priests ought to obey him.
Correct, the SSPX are not in schism. Recall, also, Benedict XVI lifted the excommunications. As a Traditional Catholic, I support and sympathize with them. They are a threat to the Modernists and Neo-Cats and these two groups will do everything to vilify and ostracize them. I also believe that, when the inevitable Restoration starts to make significant emergence, the SSPX will play a large role. Even now, very early, if you watch closely, Catholics of traditionalist bent - groups, persons, periodicals etc - are starting to coalesce.I wouldn't say so much that the SSPX disobey the pope as they more so adhere to dogma and tradition. Since 1962 popes have become superstar personalities whose every word they speak is deemed infallible by many, superelevating Vatican II with all its ambiguities, despite the fact that the Council was pastoral, not dogmatic.
Appointing Bishops without papal approval seems pretty disobedient to me. Though the excommunication of those bishops has been lifted, their ministries are not recognized. I am not at all a scholar of Canon Law, so correct me if I am wrong, but I cannot see the SSPX can claim "extraordinary jurisdiction." From where is this jurisdiction derived? Why can' they join the FSSP instead?
One thing is certain: the great sifting of men is well under way. True colors are showing. Thoughts out of many hearts are being revealed.
Exactly, myself included. This is discussed briefly in my last post.